According to Christianity, God will send an atheist who lived a just, loving, and generous life to hell while sending to heaven a serial rapist/murderer who confessed his sins immediately before dying. It is incumbent on conscientious people everywhere to hunt down this god and kill it.
The story of the Garden of Eden is not so much about the Fall of Man as it is about the Fall of God – for becoming entangled in such foolishness.
Christianity : It doesn’t matter so much how you live your life, it’s whether you believe in a conceived-without-sex god-man zombie and self-propelled astronaut referenced in an ancient, highly-contradictory, politically-compiled book bereft of any original manuscripts that was authored in foreign lands and in foreign languages decades after the fact by unknown non-eyewitnesses, and interpolated and edited for centuries by error-prone, agenda-laden scribes, then manipulatively translated by ardent believers and preached by cherry-picking pastors.
God loves you!!
(but will torture you if you don’t love him back)
Faith is the selling point of a fraudulent product.
IT IS IMMORAL TO WORSHIP A GOD WHO INTENDS TO BRING DEAD PEOPLE BACK TO LIFE FOR NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN TO INFLICT ETERNAL SUFFERING
Christianity in one sentence: Mary was impregnated by her own son so that he could be born in order to have himself killed so he could save humanity from himself.
If you have to fight science to defend your faith, it’s a good clue that there is something seriously wrong with your faith.
Christian: Why don’t you believe?
Atheist: Because snakes don’t talk, people don’t turn to salt, seas don’t part, the earth doesn’t stop revolving, whales don’t run hotels, virgins don’t give birth, people don’t walk on water, and dead people don’t come back to life.
Christian: Oh…..I see.
You just might be believing in mythology if your religion contains one or more of the following:
1: Human or animal sacrifices
2: Moral values that reflect the needs and wants of a specific primitive culture
3: Instructions to hurt, kill or look down on other people
4: Reasons to look down on yourself
5: Encouragement to abandon family ties
6: Scientifically inaccurate statements
7: Magical beings, powers or events that no longer exist
8. A holy book with dubious authorship
9. Threatened punishment for non-followers
10. Elements borrowed from previous mythologies
11. Emphasis on beliefs over actions
12. A deity that expresses human emotions
13. Instructions for the enslavement of other humans
14. Punishment of homosexuals or related
15. Identifies a ‘chosen people’
16. Sexism and misogyny
If God loves bad theists and hates good atheists, it’s probably in our best interest not to go to heaven. He seems to have a twisted sense of morality.
It takes an effort to back away from the indoctrination that most Christians have suffered through to see this religion for what it really is- a poorly evidenced, over-promised scam to control people’s emotions, lives, and finances for the gain of a select few. Meanwhile raping people of a genuine and full experience of all that life has to offer.
Religion is a smart business idea. They sell an invisible product, and if it doesn’t work, they blame it on the customer.
Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous.
If there is a god of any kind – it would want you to be kind, fair, giving, and help your neighbor. If you did those things, and it was a just and loving god, that would be enough.
Any other rules are made by man to enforce systems of behavior and power.
If there is no god, you should be kind, fair, giving, and help your neighbor.
So the existence of something we have no way to prove is kind of irrelevant. Be a good person and do your best to make society better. In the end, you’ll win either way.
So God is both hidden and eager for us to know him? You may want to recheck that.
A disbelief in the Christian god is valid because if this god was real, we would be living in a different world- a world of miracles, a world devoid of intense suffering, a world where prayers worked, a world where demons were a real and present danger, a world where scripture was precise, forward-looking, and ultimately relevant to the modern day, in which slavery was prohibited, where women’s rights were heralded, where homosexuals were esteemed, and in which science unknown to humans at the time was revealed. Instead, we live in a world that is PRECISELY what we would expect to see if there was no god, or at least no god that interfered with or took any focused interest in the affairs of this planet. Given the above, it is safe to say, for all practical purposes, THERE IS NO GOD.
If God existed, it would be a narcissistic, sociopathic little brat standing over an anthill with a magnifying glass.
God impregnated an underaged teen without prior consent from her, her parents, or her fiancée.
If I can forgive others without killing my child, why can’t God?
God reminds me of a man who gets a puppy, tells it not to pee on the carpet, flies into a rage when it does, hurls it outside to be abandoned forever — and then considers himself the victim.
The entire basis for Christianity is God impregnating a teenager without her consent for the purpose of killing his own child.
In a sane world, there would be no atheists. Because in a sane world there would be no religion.
An omniscient being sent his son to be killed in order to save humanity from his own wrath, and eating that son’s flesh, transmogrified by the words of a special person into a cracker, gives everlasting life. Uh….OK (backs away slowly)
Buy a Bible, don’t read it, and you will become a Catholic.
Buy a Bible, read what suits you and you will be evangelical.
Buy a Bible, read it entirely, analyze it, reason it … and you will become an atheist
“All Jesus had to say is ‘The world is round, and there’s Indians’ and I would have bought into the whole fucking thing” – Ron Bennington
You can make a souffle with the finest truffles, but if it has just one cockroach in it, it is a cockroach souffle. Similarly, if just one verse in the Bible supports slavery, then the Bible supports slavery.
How can you say this is an all-loving god if anytime you question him in the slightest, he just dooms you to an eternity (with no second chances) of suffering? At this point, helping Satan overthrow this dictator would make more sense.
Anyone who worships a god who plans to bring dead people back to life for no purpose other than to expose them to eternal pain is complicit in this hideous crime against humanity.
“Believers regularly take opposing positions on such matters as capital punishment, abortion, pacifism, birth control, physician-assisted suicide, animal rights, the environment, the separation of church and state, gay rights and women’s rights. It might be concluded from this that there is either a multitude of gods handing out conflicting moral advice, or a single god who is hopelessly confused.” – Dan Barker
The bible teaches homophobia, misogyny, slavery, genocide, and many other brutal acts which are long-since unacceptable.
The only being who deserves to be tortured forever is the one who tortures people forever, which is god himself.
Any deity who threatens eternal torture to people who don’t kiss his ass isn’t worthy of honor or glory.
Atheist: God sends you to hell
Theist: You send yourself to hell
Atheist: Nope, I have decided I am not going
Theist: That’s not how it works
Atheist: So then what is sending me to hell
Theist: The cognitive dissonance kicks in
God: “Only one religion is right but I won’t say which one because I want you to figure it out by hating and killing each other while I watch.”
Believing in the Rapture means you get to skip the discomfort of dying and get whisked straight to heaven instead. Being sure that it will happen in your own lifetime is the arrogance of assuming you’re so important that of course pivotal events would be scheduled for your own time.
“The first time the Deity came down to earth, he brought life and death; when he came the second time, he brought hell.” Mark Twain
I have a friend.
Oh, can I see your friend?
Can I hear your friend?
Does your friend do anything I can see?
Where is your friend?
Oh, OK. (backs away slowly)
‘Sin’ is a fictional disease invented to sell an equally fictional cure.
Christianity has much to be confused about. Look at the long list of Christian heresies about the nature of Jesus, the role of Mary, and so on. These have been resolved by mandate and tradition, not by objective evidence. Look at modern debates over morality (same-sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia, and so on). Look at the second coming, the Trinity, justification for God’s abominable actions in the Old Testament, and other murky issues. Look at the 45,000 denominations of Christianity that exist today. Let me know when Christianity gets its act together. Until then I won’t believe that the Bible looks like the product of an omniscient mind.
Christianity did not become a major religion by the quality of its truth, but by the quantity of its violence. – Michael Sherlock.
God: “You have angered me. Here, take my son and kill him so I can forgive you.”
It’s pathetic that people run their lives based on a book written by people who didn’t know where the sun goes at night.
God: What’s wrong about sending people to hell?
Satan: Because consigning people to an eternity of suffering for behaving consistently with the nature you endowed them with in the first place is not ‘just’ in any meaningful sense.
Christianity is probably the only religion that wants you to believe that a father and his son can be the same person.
This is what happens when you use a “chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and ‘improved’ by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries” to make laws.
It’s pretty sketchy that John the Baptist and Jesus were supposedly cousins. Something about that reeks of a small scale family cult.
Is Christianity really a religion of love if it promises to bring billions of dead people back to life solely for the express purpose of exposing them to pain and suffering for eternity?
“The easy confidence with which I know another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Religion is ultimately dependent on belief in invisible beings, inaudible voices, intangible entities, undetectable forces, and events and judgments that happen after we die.
It therefore has no reality check.
The Book of Job is a story about how God succumbed to temptation by Satan and committed a mortal sin.
Inventing hell probably served Christianity well in recruiting people of old who were inclined to believe such superstition, but today it has become a huge burden for the faith. It’s baked into their scriptures, so all they can do is to try to soften it, often in contradiction with their Bible, calling it a ‘separation’ or other such nonsense. Hell is a decisive and sufficient reason for concluding that Christianity is a man-made religion.
“Science adjusts it’s views based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.”
-Storm by Tim Minchin
Two roads diverged in a wood. One led to fantasy and the other to reality. The former was well trodden, but I, took the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference.
There are many sound arguments suggesting that Jesus was a mythical being, though it is still possible that he was a real person. But one thing is certain: If God intended for humanity to be certain of Jesus’ existence, he did a MISERABLE job.
All Christians are crazy. Constantly being watched and judged by a magic invisible friend who’ll torture you forever if you make a mistake will do that.
Christians are really trying to convince us that the God who murdered Bathsheba’s newborn, killed all the first born sons of Egypt, sent bears to murder little children, commanded Joshua to kill all the children in Jericho, now suddenly cares about unborn fetuses?
Does it really make sense that a force that created the entire universe, hundreds of billions of galaxies, quasars, black holes, planets, asteroids, and stars would care if humans on planet Earth were wearing clothes composed of different fabrics?
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
If someone were able to convince you God is real, he would then still have to convince you that a being that will torture billions of people forever for believing the wrong thing isn’t a sadistic evil psychopath.
The Bible should not be trusted. A book with this many errors, contradictions, lies, embellishments and lack of proper morality should not be trusted or even used. What good morality in it can be easily found elsewhere from less problematic sources.
If there were no god, you can rest assured the first deed done by the first rich man would be inventing him.
Christian: Don’t try to make sense of it. God works in mysterious ways.
Atheist: No thanks, I’ll stick with science. It works in predictable ways.
“Where do you gets your morals from? Morals come from God.” No. Morality doesn’t have anything to do with religion. You don’t need religion in order to have morals. We have morals because we live in a society. I don’t need a God to tell me that going in the streets and slaughtering people is wrong. Their morals literally come from a thousand-of-years-old book that condones slavery, rape and murder.
A book based on real life wouldn’t have a mud-man, rib-woman, talking snake, impossible flood, impossible boat with 9,000,000 animals, tower to heaven, city’s falling by trumpets, man in a fish belly, talking donkey, dragons. Also threats of hell for those who find such stuff unbelievable.
One major lesson to be learned about determining what to believe and what not to believe can be summed up in a few words- the things that are real can be observed, measured, or demonstrated. To that end, we can say confidently that ghosts, goblins, poltergeists, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, alien abductions, wizards, witches, angels, demons, fairies, and unicorns are not real. And one more we can add to this list: The God of Christianity.
The human brain is not wired to be indefatigably objective. it has a lot of built-in short circuits that navigate around the logic centers. Religions take advantage of this.
For Christianity to have a fighting chance at legitimacy, at least among people who demand reasonable evidence, the bulk of the New Testament should have been written by Jesus, or his disciples, or by those who accompanied his ministry and witnessed the teachings and miracles. None of these people wrote a single word that now appears in the New Testament. Paul wrote the bulk of it, and, even the gospels, though not written by Paul, were heavily influence by his epistles. Simply put, an evidently psychotic man was the lead architect of Christianity.
“If we do not confront the fact of our mortality, if we hide from it and evade it by fabricating fantasies that we are immortal, we do not really grow up. We remain emotionally stunted, never having come to terms with the truth about ourselves and our lives.”- Richard Carrier
The Bible was written by the hand of God
Ok, so either you are correct, and God is a sadistic, homophobic, genocidal maniac who endorses slavery, murder, rape, and eternal suffering… Or you’re wrong and its just a book written by primitive men. Either way your religion is fucked.
Christian: Why don’t you read the Bible, even if you think it’s fiction?
Atheist: Because I don’t read books that advocate for genocide, slavery, homophobia, or sexism.
Christian: Oh….I see
The core doctrine of Christianity: For you to be forgiven, someone else must suffer.
Christians say God is love. An all-powerful god who does nothing to assuage the ongoing suffering of people, and then dangles a post-death reward only to those who mostly by luck of birth believe in him while eternally torturing everybody else is not expressing love in any sense that registers as being even remotely authentic.
People don’t think evangelicals are awful because of their portrayals in pop culture. It’s because we all see what they do with their power and what they’re against. They’re anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-choice, anti-sex, anti-science, anti-refugee, anti-immigrant, anti-intellectual, pro-virus, pro-cruelty, pro-death penalty, and pro-bigotry.
Some Christians say there are no downsides to believing, even if it isn’t true. Not so. 10 percent of your income given to greedy pedophiles, praying instead of actually fixing your problems, giving up many pleasurable pursuits because they’re ‘sinful,’ spending time in church which could be spent hiking, biking, golfing, etc, losing out on the wonder of learning about evolution and similar scientific concepts, having to live with the idea that others are going to hell and feeling pressure to ‘save; them.
The quality of evidence supporting the authenticity of Christian theology is woefully insufficient to legitimize its intent to divide humanity into heaven and hell.
The idea that a person’s eternal destiny could depend upon something as fragile, as accidental, as their religious beliefs, most of which were simply inherited from parents, seemed so ludicrous that only the most gullible and naïve could possibly entertain it.
If God himself can drown babies and puppies, I doubt Christians are riding the ridgeline of human morality.
You’d think that if Jesus were the point of God’s story, if he were the person necessary for people to avoid hell, Jesus would be in the Garden of Eden right from the start.
Conscious life is bent on survival, but humans logically know they will die. The imagined spirit world, the “soul” and the afterlife are created in the mind for survival’s imperative. To imagine surviving a death that is certain.
The creation of a punishment of eternal torment requires such a punishment for the creator.
It is curious to hear some Christians claim that Muslims are worshiping the same god as they are, without realizing that this makes their god out to be a monstrous deceiver, delivering two conflicting theological packages to humanity for no apparent reason other than to create conflict, misery, violence, and death.
Generally speaking, when you choose between a tangled weave of complicated and internally-inconsistent rationalizations versus a simple explanation, the latter is likely to be true. God is not real explains everything perfectly.
Jesus impregnated his own mother so that she could give birth to himself. Later, he teleported out of her vagina so that her hymen would be undisturbed and she could maintain her virginal purity and claim her title as queen of heaven.
Christians cannot deal with biological finality. They invent a theme park in the afterlife, instead of maturing and dealing with the difficult realities of this life.
Science doesn’t make it impossible to believe in God, it just makes it possible not to believe in God.
So after: 548,865,475,810,748,548,948,412,265,523,794,652,805,718,935,264,508,212,569,845,139,745,069,839,457,958,626,740,152,486,569,309,047,235,807,154,638,978,257,015,480,963,852,004,767,119,365,454,610,936 years in heaven, do you think you might start getting a little bored?
Christian: You atheists have no morals and you are mean to us Christians.
Atheist: You are worshiping a god who intends to bring dead people back to life for no purpose other than to inflict them with pain for eternity, with no possibility of ‘parole’, and you think we have a problem?
The most preposterous notion that Homo sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. – Robert Heinlein
One day, the Bible might even be viewed as one of the curiosities of a tragic bibliolatrous age, when dependence on a text brought untold misery and stood as an obstacle to human progress. We might then study the Bible as a lesson in why human beings should never again apply special privilege to any book. – Hector Avalos
Christian belief is a fragile delusion that is maintained by quarantining adverse evidence out of the field of view. Sometimes all it takes is for a trusted friend to come out and it puts believers into a depressive mood for weeks.
Christians are intentionally numbing themselves to life. They would rather fool themselves with a comforting falsehood than to turn and face this real existence we are all in together right now.
Christianity is a support group for people who believe God manifested on earth as a Jewish hippy some twenty centuries ago, then killed himself on a cross in order to spare his own creation from his own wrath.
You were dead for billions of years before you were born, didn’t bother you in the slightest. The fact that we cease to exist when we die is a relief, religion gives you the anxiety of worrying about hell and torture and being permanently trapped under the thumb of a galactic dictator. I know when I die I will never worry or suffer again, I will have perfect peace.
Teach a man what to think and he will be a Christian. Teach a man how think and he will be an atheist.
I don’t get my morality from the Bible because it condones stoning people for petty crimes, beheadings, burning people alive, killing children, genocide, holy war, incest, rape, slavery, animal cruelty, polygamy, terrorism, and killing nonbelievers.
No one has explained so far why Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, leprechauns and elves are actually fairy tales, whereas gods, devils, demons, angels, spirits who make virgins pregnant, and talking snakes are real.
Christianity wants you to believe that a father and his son can be the same person.
Worship is the weakest form of human interaction. It involves a fact-fucking obsequiousness that satisfies neither the worshiper nor the worshipee.
Most religious people are blissfully blind to the fact that they have made a ‘purchase’ without adequate investigation. Too much credit is given to what they were trained to believe and too little consideration is given to what they were trained to disbelieve. So, in the end, we have billions of people living in a state of delusion brought on by their human nature to mindlessly accept what is presented before them.
The only reason that Christians have no problem with their principal symbol being an implement of torture is that they have been enculturated to accept it as a normal element of faith. When viewed outside the milieu of this preconditioned mentality, it is truly disgusting- an absolute travesty of common decency.
The idea of God implies the abdication of human reason and justice; it is the most decisive negation of human liberty, and necessarily ends in the enslavement of mankind, both in theory and practice.
– Michael Bakunin
Christian: Isn’t God wonderful! He instructed his people to cut off the foreskin of boys because he knew that it could cause problems later in life.
Atheist: Then why did he create the foreskin in the first place?
Why would a god that’s said to be benevolent condemn people to eternal suffering for simply not believing in something that doesn’t manifest itself in the reality we observe?
Christianity thoroughly diminishes your journey through this existence and makes you a pawn in some eternal game of chess. It restricts peoples’ ability to realize their strengths or to make real choices. Rather than setting a person free, it turns them into a slave.
Oddly enough, reports of demon possession started to dwindle as our understanding of mental illness increased.
Unlike the god of the Old Testament, the god of the New Testament is not happy when his enemies lay dead and broken before him. He pursues them into death to inflict never-ending suffering.
If the god of Christianity is real, it is clear that he is not concerned about being detected. And considering that failure to detect him leads one to infinite misery, this god is undoubtedly the most evil figure in the entire universe.
To a recently ‘converted’ atheist, seeing others still believing is similar to an older brother finding out that Santa is fake and seeing his younger brother putting out milk and cookies on Christmas Eve.
The fact is that much of biblical scholarship is a joke, allowing standards of ‘evidence’ that are unacceptable in other areas of historical research. The whole field is based on dubious ‘facts’ much inflated by wishful thinking and built on the quicksand of self-interest with a shared self-delusion masquerading as ‘consensus.’
The absence of miracles is evidence that the god of Christianity does not exist. It is not proof of this assertion. However, there is an opportunity cost because there could be miracles given the existence of God.
It would be like a person saying they swim a lot in the pool at your resort, but every time you have looked at the pool, he is not swimming. Does it mean he is lying?- No. Does it raise the probability that he is lying?- Yes.
The Christian god has an ego so fragile that he sends anyone who does not literally worship him to an eternal torture dimension of unfathomable pain. The people who do choose to worship him get to spend eternity continuing to worship him. If this god is real he is horrendously wrathful and self obsessed.
A virgin gives birth to a baby, who grows up to be a man who also happens to be the creator of the universe. The man walks on water and talks to demons who obey his orders. The man is killed but comes back to life. Then he flies up into outer space. What part of this does not sound like a fairy tale?
The default position of the Christian god is that EVERYONE is damned to hell from the get go, primed for eternal suffering and punishment UNLESS they do certain specific ego-soothing acts of worship towards this god and then can finally join him to continue this eternal worship in his presence.
I am so impressed that God has communicated so thoroughly and so consistently to all of his followers. They agree on everything, well, except for abortion rights, women leaders, euthanasia, stem-cell research, gay rights, becoming rich, dancing, gambling, drinking, R-rated movies, gun control, birth control, climate change, evolution, literal interpretation of the Bible, the Trinity, Mary’s virginity, and universal health care. Other than those, it it truly impressive how God has communicated to his followers what is right and what is wrong.
Christians don’t have an evidence based view of the world. Their world view is contingent on believing certain things. Period. You or I, we like to believe things if the evidence supports them. But to them, evidence is irrelevant if it contradicts the things they think they need to believe.
Christianity oversells the relationship aspect to the limits of credibility and beyond. There is no rational basis to separate this experience from a child who has an imaginary friend. In both cases it is a one-way conversation with someone you can’t see, hear, or touch, and any return chatter is obviously of your own making. In effect, Christianity turns intelligent adults into small children while laughing all the way to the bank.
Most people recognize that torture is wrong and yet we are expected to believe that some deity will torture us for all eternity if we don’t believe he exists on insufficient evidence?
The 10 Commandments are revered by most Christians but anyone who has any sense can see that they contain some glaring omissions and some weird inclusions.
Atheists’ 10 Commandments
Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.
Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.
The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.
Every person has the right to control of their body.
God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.
Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.
Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.
We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.
There is no one right way to live.
Leave the world a better place than you found it.
If there was an all-powerful deity who wanted humans to know about its existence, then there would be no controversy or question about its existence. This deity would be obvious to every reasonable person, and would have been for all of history. There would be no argument about it. No faith would be required. There would be no atheists. It would be as observable, testable, and provable as hurricanes, Australia or oak trees. Since this is not the case, it is reasonable to conclude that no such deity exists, or if it does, it is not concerned with being detected.
I question anyone who worships a god who thinks it’s OK to torture dead people.
Christians can make all the metaphysical arguments for why a god must exist, but they are not claiming just any god- no, their god is all-powerful, all-seeing, able to manipulate everything from a cancer cell to a mountain, can answer any prayer, can speak in a booming voice, and work every miracle in the book,. For this god to exist, we would have to be living in a different world- ours doesn’t work that way.
Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
If fools can figure it out, then why can’t you?!
There are no gods,
no devils, no angels,
no heaven or hell.
There is only our natural world.
Religion is but
myth and superstition
that hardens hearts
and enslaves minds.
“OK class, today we’ll be teaching you the truth, about how an all knowing, all powerful, morally perfect being felt compelled to send everyone to hell and that the only way he could prevent it, even though it was himself doing it, was to make a human woman birth a son who was also him, and then sacrifice himself (who was also his son) TO himself, so he could save those who believe in this from going to hell.”
(kid raises hand)
“There will be no questions, questions are from people who go to hell.”
Christian: God has told me that murder is wrong.
Atheist: Really? You needed someone to tell you that murder is wrong? (backs away slowly)
Humans and chimps share 95% genetic similarities.
Humans and mud share 0% genetic similarities.
I reject the glorification of genocidal deities, fictional or real.
There is a vast difference between a declaration and a demonstration. Things that are declared without being demonstrated are rightly rejected by even the least skeptical persons, except when it comes to religion- then, no demonstration is required and belief is purchased at a penny on the dollar.
If you don’t have to accept Adam’s eating of the apple to be cursed with original sin, why do have to accept Jesus’ sacrifice to be forgiven?
It should be obvious that if the god being argued for actually existed the use of the ‘mysterious ways’ argument would not be necessary. Only fictional gods are mysterious.
I despise religion because I hate to see beautiful minds vandalized by superstition.
Atheism: It isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship with reality.
I don’t want to be a good person so I can live with God after I die. I want to be a good person so I can live with myself while I am alive.
Christianity- The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God’s creation from God
Christians believe that the war god of a pantheon of gods originally worshiped by a primitive Middle Eastern desert tribe 3000 years ago is the only possible god that can exist, dismissing all claims to 2000 other gods worshiped by humans over the past 10,000 years.
I despise religion and find it to be a disgusting, immoral, vindictive, belligerent, fear-inducing, vengeful, poorly constructed and corrupt ancient doctrine of hate.
The most preposterous notion ever conceived by homo sapiens is that the Lord God, creator and shaper of all the universe, wants the prayers of his subjects, and the adulations of his subjects, and that if he doesn’t get this flattery he becomes petulant. This absurd notion, without a trace of evidence to back it up,
pays for the biggest, least productive industry on Earth.
— Lazarus Long
The idea that a woman who becomes accidentally pregnant should remain stuck as a human incubator for nine months is disgusting and inhumane.
Jesus was a long-haired, dark-skinned, liberal, pacifist, socialist- in other words, everything Christians are not.
“Either believe that people will burn in hell if they don’t believe in a God who burns people in hell, or you’ll burn in hell.”
KYROOT’S WAGER: Why risk following any religion when it’s likely that the ‘real’ god is watching us and will raise up only those of us who have correctly determined that all earthly religions are fake.
To follow a religion is to lock your mind voluntarily inside a cage.
Come on. You just can’t come up with anything more ridiculous than someone who honestly thinks that all human woes stem from an incident in which a talking snake accosted a naked woman in a primeval garden and talked her into eating a piece of fruit.
If this Christian shit is real, then God is an asshole for providing such little and unreliable evidence. If I get sent to hell, then God sent me there because of his fucked up business model.
I’m obviously not saying that all religious people are psychopaths and psychotics, but this to me is the true horror of religion- it allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own.”
― Sam Harris
Christianity is a disease of the mind that creates an artificial sense of certainty in things that are wildly uncertain.
That’s the difference between me and your god. If I see a child being raped or murdered I will do all I can to stop it. If your god sees it he will sit there and watch, doing nothing. Then, he may even punish the child for infinity if they didn’t believe in him while also potentially blessing the child rapist/murderer with eternal bliss if they believed in him. Your god is an immoral monster.
If I was a god and I saw a priest molesting a child I would stop him … that’s the difference between me and the Christian god.
What could possibly be more arrogant than thinking the universe was made for mankind, that only we bipedal primates are made in the image of God, that all other sentient beings are here for us to use, that you happened to be born into the one true faith among the tens of thousands of false ones, and that the force that created the laws of physics wants a personal relationship with you.
We know that intelligence requires a material substance (brain, computer chip) and that a material presence requires a specific location, and that the properties of space-time preclude light or information from traveling at speeds greater than 300,000 km/hr, such that it becomes impossible for any single conscious being to see all and control all of the universe in real time.
Some people use Bible verses to justify beating children, withholding medical treatment, handling snakes, drinking poison, chopping off body parts, plucking out eyes, driving out demons, withdrawing from the affairs of this world, not saving for the future, discriminating against LGBQ and women, stifling science education, renouncing the pleasures of life, and expecting the world to end.
Christians often say that God is NOT the author of confusion. Can you say, Tower of Babel?
Christianity isn’t really monotheistic is it? There are angels, archangels, principalities, seraphim, cherubim, thrones, ophanim, dominions, the holy spirit, God, Jesus and a whole bunch of saints. Calling that monotheism is just Orwellian double speak.
Judaism is an ethnic religion, meaning that it cannot rightly be used as a ‘monolith’ to support another faith. It belongs only to the Jewish people. It was created strictly for them as a cultural construct. Most Jews understand it to be a mostly fictional tradition that binds them together. Christianity and Islam borrowed and perverted it to buttress their newly evolved theologies, but did so illegitimately.
Once you realize that the Bible was written by ordinary Bronze Age men and that it contains mostly myth and fictionalized history, then everything makes sense.
People who embrace Christianity are not well individuals. They might be healthy, happy, loving, and productive citizens, but they are not well- their minds are locked inside a contorted view of reality that renders impossible a holistic expression of universal harmony.
Christianity is a support group for people who wish to avoid reality and fool themselves into thinking that there is a fairy-tale ending to this existence.
I am very much against anything that tries to justify faith as a valid and legitimate method to arrive at a conclusion.
We can imagine that a god of reality would do things much differently, not demanding adherence to numerous and minute rules most of which have no effect on the welfare of the person, the society, or the planet. Such a god would most likely expect nothing much beyond the golden rule, to simply be nice and live life for the common good- not prescribing circumcision, banning foods, demanding worship, or sacrificing earthly goods. No, but a god manufactured by humans would likely be cast as a dominator, such as to be effective at controlling people and their money. Such is the fictional being we call Yahweh.
The easy confidence with which I know another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also. Mark Twain.
I’ll tell you what you did with Atheists for about 1500 years. You outlawed them from the universities or any teaching careers, besmirched their reputations, banned or burned their books or their writings of any kind, drove them into exile, humiliated them, seized their properties, arrested them for blasphemy. You dehumanised them with beatings and exquisite torture, gouged out their eyes, slit their tongues, stretched, crushed, or broke their limbs, tore off their breasts if they were women, crushed their scrotums if they were men, imprisoned them, stabbed them, disembowelled them, hanged them, burnt them alive…….And you have nerve enough to complain to me that I laugh at you.
— Dr. Madalyn Murray O’Hair
We die just like every other living thing. It is not a pretty picture, but it is all we have and I contend that a life lived under this understanding will be more authentic, adventurous, and fulfilling than one burdened by the false hope for an afterlife.
God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all — the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that god commanded him to perform this act in fact he does not believe In God at all, so his acts are based on an Inner sense of morality. And look at the Kindness he can bestow upon others Simply because he feels it to be right.
I always hate it when science gets in the way of a good miracle.
Asking ‘if there is no god, what is the purpose of life?’ is like asking ‘if there is no master, whose slave shall I be?’
God declines to provide any actual evidence of Jesus’ divinity while simultaneously making his forgiveness contingent upon accepting that premise.
Some healings are too hard for god. Mostly he can heal only with the help of time, drugs, surgery, and the action of the person’s immune system.
If the world is a barn, religion is the pile of dung surrounded by files next to the dead mouse.
Notice how no one ever says ‘Mosquitoes are real, I know it in my heart.’
After spending some time in the hospital’s pediatric ward, I can say that I have seen the absence of God.
Christian: Jesus died for our sins!
Atheist: But then he came back to life?
Christian: Yes, after three days!
Atheist: So he really didn’t die.
Christian: Well, he was dead for a while.
Atheist: But after that wasn’t he the same as before?
Christian: Yes, he ascended to the right hand of his Father!
Atheist: So what was the sacrifice?
Christian: ……uh……..well……hmm…let me see.
If you worship a god who would send ANYONE (Hitler included) to a place of everlasting conscious torment, then you are an accessory to the fact. The more authentic position would be to say that you respect God as being the ultimate creator of the universe, but that you detest his decision to create Hell.
No story about Noah and his ark is complete without the bloated, gnarled, rotting carcasses of men, women, children, infants, fetuses, and other animals that God murdered floating alongside and bouncing against the boat.
A true god would not take sides in a tribal conflict. A god invented by humans would.
Since God inseminated his own mother, does that make him a motherfucker?
Religion trains people to dial down the logic centers of their brains.
A god who actually loved us would, first of all, not threaten us with Hell. Second, he would let us know who he is and make his existence positively known. Third, if he decided to give us life after death, he would guide every one of us to this happy place. The god of Christianity fails on all of these points.
Since most Christians seem to believe that God does not want to do anything that is clearly supernatural (and so destroy the faith that he seems to crave), it appears that his message will be forever mired in Iron Age justice and morality, while humankind continues to advance and improve, progressively making the Bible less and less relevant over time.
SCIENCE ASKS QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT NEVER BE ANSWERED
RELIGION HAS ANSWERS THAT MUST NEVER BE QUESTIONED
The Christian says “Muslims and Jews are wrong.”
The Jew says “Christians and Muslims are wrong.”
The Muslim says “Christians and Jews are wrong.”
The atheist says, “You are all correct.”
To deny marriage rights to gay couples, i.e. the full expression of their love and commitment to each other and the associated benefits, based on YOUR religious beliefs, is one of the lowest forms of human morality.
Oscar Wilde: Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn’t there, and finding it.
In the infinitesimally small chance that Christianity is true, and this was proven beyond doubt, I would still choose not to go to heaven; because I would categorically refuse to worship this piece of shit god for the next trillion trillion years.
Real love is impossible under the threat of eternal torture. The claim that God loves us, but will torture most of us, is preposterous.
Faith is a cognitive bias that causes believers to overestimate any confirming evidence and underestimate any disconfirming evidence.
According to Christianity, not believing in Jesus is a worse sin than murder.
Evolutionary biologist: “Let’s take a look at the evidence and see what conclusions we can make.”
Creationist: “Here’s the conclusion, let’s see what evidence we can find to support it.”
“I’m always shocked that gay marriage is such a big deal. You have to realize how precious human life is, when there are tsunamis and mudslides, when there are armies and terrorists – at any moment, you could be gone, and potentially in the most brutal fashion. And then you have to realize that love is truly one of the most extraordinary things you can experience in your life.To begrudge someone else their love of another person because of gender seems to be absolutely absurd. It’s based in fear, fear of the other, fear of what is not like you. But when you are able to see lives on a day-to-day basis, rather than reducing it to politics, then it humanizes a whole community of people that were otherwise invisible.” -Jennifer Beals
Everything makes much more sense when you assume there is no god.
There is no better evidence that Christianity is false than to show that a more comprehensive study of itself leads more to doubt than faith.
Christianity wants you to believe that all humanity is born deserving of unbearable suffering. But thankfully, an extra-dimensional Universe Creator had a third of himself executed so that we could experience a conspicuously opulent immortality as opposed to being set on fire forever.
A divine being ‘dictating’ to human writers would almost certainly have done a better job of establishing a clear and well understood doctrine that would not have required a quarrelsome debate among human interpreters for the next twenty centuries.
Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going?
Faith means never having to say you’re wrong
If the Garden of Eden, The Tower of Babel, the Great Flood, the Egyptian exile, and Jonah and the whale are allegories, how can we be sure that anything in the Bible is factual?
The quality of the minds attracted to theology and the clergy went into decline as the scientific method began laying waste to religious dogma. No discovery of science has ever pointed to the truth of any religious doctrine.
Why is it that God forgives people who knowingly sin (murderers, rapists, cheaters) but doesn’t forgive people who unknowingly sin (non-believers)?
I figured out that if demons are not real, then Christianity must be false. Then I figured out that demons are not real.
The fact that the Christian god “chose” a certain people over all others and helped them to murder other people, men, women, and children, who were just as good and honorable, tells you that one of two things is true- either that God doesn’t exist or he doesn’t deserve to be worshiped, and if it’s the latter, we are fucked.
Depressed teen: Nobody accepts me!
Jesus: I know the feeling.
Depressed teen: What do you do when they won’t accept you?
Jesus: I tell them to go to Hell.
Evolutionist: Humans evolved from a common ancestor we share with chimpanzees that lived about 6 million years ago.
Christian: Were you there?
Evolutionist: Do you believe that Jesus rose from the dead?
Christian: Of course I do, there is no doubt in my mind.
Evolutionist: Were you there?
We don’t need apologetics for houseflies. You simply point to them and say “there’s one now.”
Apparently the mightier you are, the more you need middle-aged pseudo-academics to ‘demonstrate’ your existence. Quite a paradox.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality of happiness, and so fragile that it can crack at a moment’s notice.
Religion is like giving someone a baby walker that, instead of helping them come to walk on their own, makes them dependent on it and cripples them for life.
Christian: God hates abortion!
Atheist: Didn’t God kill some pregnant women in the Great Flood?
Christian: Well, yes, probably.
Atheist: Doesn’t that constitute abortion?
Atheist: Why not?
Christian: Because God did it.
The Old Testament is a font of evidence alerting any clear-thinking person that the God created by the Jews is not a real entity, but just an imaginary deity who failed to transcend the limited depth of Iron Age knowledge, understanding, morality, ethics, and wisdom.
Christians are in the uncomfortable position of worshiping a god who is morally inferior to themselves.
When confronted with the size and scale of the universe and the myriad forms of evil, disasters, pain, and suffering, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the world described by Christianity does not match the world in which we live.
Science is the impartial discovery of reality; religion is the subjective creation of fantasy.
If God is so concerned about homosexuality and abortion, why didn’t Jesus say anything about it?
Elite athletes make first place, strange shapes appear on toast and some people narrowly escape death, but amputated limbs never regrow, mountains never move and food never spontaneously appears in front of the hundreds of children that starve to death each hour.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” – Marcus Aurelius
Once the masses started to read and understand what was in the Bible we started to see the Church’s power crumble -Alan Lewis
It’s not that atheists have nothing to live for- it’s that they have nothing to die for.
Believing your delusions is called insanity. Believing other peoples’ delusions is called religion.
Debating a person who believes in the Noah flood story is like an astronomer explaining to someone that meteors are not falling stars.
Why do I have to believe in Jesus to be forgiven if I don’t have to believe in Adam and Eve to be condemned?
Christians rail against gay marriage, which Jesus said nothing about, but have no problem marrying divorced women, which Jesus specifically condemned as an act of adultery. (Matthew 18:15-17)
If Christianity was real, it’s truth would permeate our core existence and its denial would require a surrender of our faculties rather the free exercise of them.
I gave up on Christianity because the evidence failed to support the purported claims and I actually care if what I believe is factually true or not.
Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God’s creations from God
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Prayer is magical thinking that does not produce magical results.
Religion is an illusion created to help people avoid reality.
If a god made contact with humans, it would be so obvious and universal that there would be only one religion. Since this has not happened, it is reasonably certain that no god has made contact with humans, and furthermore, it is highly probable that he/she/it either does not exist or else does not know that we exist.
If you think that 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years from now, people will still be being punished for sins they committed during 75 years while on earth, then you have just figured out that God is a total asshole.
Arguing with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon. You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around triumphantly.
Science brings people together, religion divides
If God will not reveal Himself to you in a way that is clear and unmistakable, it is absurd to think you deserve eternal torment for not “believing.”
Death cult anyone?
Atheist: God is a dick.
Christian: That was the Old Testament,
Atheist: Oh, so that was a different god?
Christian: No, same.
Atheist: So you only have the New Testament in your Bible?
Christian: No, both.
Atheist: Am I missing something?
Christian: Sorry, need to go.
Christianity at it’s core is about getting people to join their group and believe that by joining their group one can stop a wrathful god from exacting everlasting judgement on those who do not join.
Christianity- the greatest lie ever sold
God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That’s not free will. It’s like a man telling his girlfriend, do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out. When a man says this we call him a psychopath. When god says the same we call him “loving” and build churches in his honor. – William C. Easttom II
Christian: You killed Jesus!
Jew: You’re welcome!
Christian: I BEG YOUR PARDON!
Jew: Don’t you believe that Jesus had to die for you to be saved?
Christian: Well, yeah.
Jew: Then, you’re welcome!
If God exists and decided to assign mankind to an afterlife in either a glorious paradise and a dreadful inferno, he would make doubly and triply sure that the criteria for this decision is unmistakably clear. Constrastively, if disparate human minds devised such a theology, then contradictory and ambiguous results would appear, as they do.
Surely not everybody was Kung Fu Fighting.
Christianity is like a beautiful, shiny car, but when you look under the hood, the engine is missing.
The story of the redemption will not stand examination. That man should redeem himself from the sin of eating an apple by committing a murder on Jesus Christ, is the strangest system of religion ever set up. Thomas Paine
Christians brag that they give more to charity than atheists- not true. Give $100 to a church and about $7 goes to help people in need. Give merely $10 to Red Cross and about $9.30 goes to helping people in need.
Christian: Jesus is Lord!
Atheist: Is that what you think?
Christian: I don’t think. I know.
Atheist: I don’t think you know either.
Gandhi didn’t accept Christ, so although he did 1000 good things, he also did 1 bad thing and because of that 1 bad thing he deserves to be tormented forever in Hell by a ‘loving’ God……yeah, makes perfect sense.
When a person becomes an atheist it is a seminal moment because for the first time in their life all of the pieces of the puzzle fit together perfectly and there is no longer a need to ask “Why?”
Christian: You must be born again.
Atheist: No thanks, I was born OK the first time.
Free and easily accessible forgiveness provides incentive to indulge in impropriety.
Atheist: I am an atheist.
Christian: So why do you hate God?
Atheist: I don’t know, I guess for the same reason you hate Zeus.
Atheists have better sex because ‘no one’s watching.’